Have you been keeping tabs on the latest breakthroughs in Large Language Models (LLMs)? If so, you’ve probably heard of DeepSeek V3—one of the more recent MoE (Mixture-of-Expert) behemoths to hit the stage. Well, guess what? A strong contender has arrived, and it’s called Qwen2.5-Max. Today, we’ll see how this new MoE model has been built, what sets it apart from the competition, and why it just might be the rival that DeepSeek V3 has been waiting for.
It’s widely recognized that scaling up both data size and model size can unlock higher levels of “intelligence” in LLMs. Yet, the journey of scaling to immense levels—especially with MoE models—remains an ongoing learning process for the broader research and industry community. The field has only recently begun to understand many of the nitty-gritty details behind these gargantuan models, thanks in part to the unveiling of DeepSeek V3.
But the race doesn’t stop there. Qwen2.5-Max is hot on its heels with a huge training dataset—over 20 trillion tokens—and refined post-training steps that include Supervised Fine-Tuning (SFT) and Reinforcement Learning from Human Feedback (RLHF). By applying these advanced methods, Qwen2.5-Max aims to push the boundaries of model performance and reliability.
Performance metrics aren’t just vanity numbers—they’re a preview of how a model will behave in actual usage. Qwen2.5-Max was tested on several demanding benchmarks:
Qwen2.5-Max consistently outperforms DeepSeek V3 on multiple benchmarks:
It also holds its own on MMLU-Pro, a particularly tough test of academic prowess, placing it among the top contenders
Here’s the comparison:
In short, if you look at this chart to pick a “best” model, you’ll see it really depends on what type of tasks you care about most (hard knowledge vs. coding vs. QA).
Benchmark | Qwen2.5-Max | Qwen2.5-72B | DeepSeek-V3 | LLaMA3.1-405B |
MMLU | 87.9 | 86.1 | 87.1 | 85.2 |
MMLU-Pro | 69.0 | 58.1 | 64.4 | 61.6 |
BBH | 89.3 | 86.3 | 87.5 | 85.9 |
C-Eval | 92.2 | 90.7 | 90.1 | 72.5 |
CMMLU | 91.9 | 89.9 | 88.8 | 73.7 |
HumanEval | 73.2 | 64.6 | 65.2 | 61.0 |
MBPP | 80.6 | 72.6 | 75.4 | 73.0 |
CRUX-I | 70.1 | 60.9 | 67.3 | 58.5 |
CRUX-O | 79.1 | 66.6 | 69.8 | 59.9 |
GSM8K | 94.5 | 91.5 | 89.3 | 89.0 |
MATH | 68.5 | 62.1 | 61.6 | 53.8 |
When it comes to evaluating base (pre-instruction) models, Qwen2.5-Max goes head-to-head with some big names:
In these comparisons, Qwen2.5-Max shows significant advantages across most benchmarks, proving that its foundation is solid before any instruct tuning even takes place.
Curious to try out Qwen2.5-Max for yourself? There are two convenient ways to get hands-on:
You can start interacting with Qwen Chat using this link. Experience Qwen2.5-Max interactively—ask questions, play with artifacts, or even brainstorm in real time.
Developers can call the Qwen2.5-Max API (model name: qwen-max-2025-01-25) by following these steps:
Since Qwen’s APIs are compatible with OpenAI’s API format, you can plug into existing OpenAI-based workflows. Here’s a quick Python snippet to get you started:
!pip install openai
from openai import OpenAI
import os
client = OpenAI(
api_key=os.getenv("API_KEY"),
base_url="https://dashscope-intl.aliyuncs.com/compatible-mode/v1",
)
completion = client.chat.completions.create(
model="qwen-max-2025-01-25",
messages=[
{'role': 'system', 'content': 'You are a helpful assistant.'},
{'role': 'user', 'content': 'Which number is larger, 9.11 or 9.8?'}
]
)
print(completion.choices[0].message)
To determine which number is larger between 9.11 and 9.8 , let's compare them
step by step:
Step 1: Compare the whole number parts
Both numbers have the same whole number part, which is 9 . So we move to the
decimal parts for further comparison.
Step 2: Compare the decimal parts
The decimal part of 9.11 is 0.11 .
The decimal part of 9.8 is 0.8 (equivalent to 0.80 when written with two
decimal places for easier comparison).
Now compare 0.11 and 0.80 :
0.80 is clearly larger than 0.11 because 80 > 11 in the hundredths place.
Conclusion
Since the decimal part of 9.8 is larger than that of 9.11 , the number 9.8 is
larger.
Final Answer:
9.8
Scaling data and model size is far more than a race for bigger numbers. Each leap in size brings new levels of sophistication and reasoning power. Moving forward, the Qwen team aims to push the boundaries even further by leveraging scaled reinforcement learning to hone model cognition and reasoning. The dream? To uncover capabilities that could rival—or even surpass—human intelligence in certain domains, paving the way for new frontiers in AI research and practical applications.
Qwen2.5-Max isn’t just another large language model. It’s an ambitious project geared toward outshining incumbents like DeepSeek V3, forging breakthroughs in everything from coding tasks to knowledge queries. With its massive training corpus, novel MoE architecture, and smart post-training methods, Qwen2.5-Max has already shown it can stand toe-to-toe with some of the best.
Ready for a test drive? Head over to Qwen Chat or grab the API from Alibaba Cloud and start exploring what Qwen2.5-Max can do. Who knows—maybe this friendly rival to DeepSeek V3 will end up being your favourite new partner in innovation.